> Well over 100,000 die. > Fourth cause of death in America.
Much of it is caused by bad hygene by the hospital employees themselves.Thats pretty bad considering now when you have to spend any amount of time in a hospital you hav to wonder if the nurse has washed her hands before she comes to you'r room and does whatever it is she has to do
> Well over 100,000 die. > Fourth cause of death in America.
A lot of it comes from the hospital emplyees themselves.Nurses who don't sanitise their hand and such and even doctors that don't,Now when i have to spend any amount of time in a hospital I have to worry and wonder if the next person thats going to check me out has cleaned theirselves first
"charles q" <q.charles...@gmail.com> wrote: > A lot of it comes from the hospital emplyees themselves. > Nurses who don't sanitise their hand and such and even > doctors that don't, Now when i have to spend any > amount of time in a hospital I have to worry and wonder > if the next person thats going to check me out has > cleaned theirselves first
"even doctors"? there's plenty of research (and simple observation!) that shows that doctors are infinitely worse (to the point of danger) at cleansing their hands; just that few doctors actually touch patients these days.
It's also true research shows that nurses don't wash their hands as often as they ought - but they are getting better, and - charles obviously hasn't noticed - they do wear gloves for much patient contact these days.
Worth saying that patients themselves are often reponsible for their own infections, either being unco-operative with regular washes, inserting dirty digits into clean dressings, and generally fiddling about with items they probably should leave well alone (yes, it happens).
Most infections are froma patient's own flora and fauna; it's now becoming apparent that even MRSA is brought into hospital much more than was realised.
But, having set the record a little straighter, this conversation would be much more useful if it moved from blame to more positive approaches on preventing unnecessary deaths. That's the only way to bring the numbers down.
Like safe staffing levels, less shared equipment, controlled visiting, decent food, care contracts and zero tolerance in some cases ... over to you. --
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In message <59330d70-0d81-47cd-bd00-9860e1323...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, charles q wrote:
> A lot of it comes from the hospital emplyees themselves.Nurses who > don't sanitise their hand and such and even doctors that don't,Now > when i have to spend any amount of time in a hospital I have to worry > and wonder if the next person thats going to check me out has cleaned > theirselves first
No, you don't.
Either you see her change gloves or you tell her that she isn't allowed to touch you. Same for the doc and anyone else. If they do, yell at the top of your lungs and demand an incident report.
NB: one of the more egregious practices today is that workers "glove up" before seeing patients -- and don't change gloves *between* patients.
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In message <6dgv9qF2i1k...@mid.individual.net>, Andrew Heenan wrote:
> It's also true research shows that nurses don't wash their hands as often as > they ought - but they are getting better, and - charles obviously hasn't > noticed - they do wear gloves for much patient contact these days.
Studies show that the current problem is more often that they don't _change_ gloves between patients.
IMHO there should be a red can outside of every patient room and any staff wearing gloves *outside* of a room written up, any staff _without_ gloves inside of a room likewise.
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